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When did SF start using numbers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:14 am
by dannmayo
San Francisco was allocated examiner numbers 1461-1740 by General Order 4 on 19 December 1941, This allocation was continued in General Orders 24 and 56 on, 2 February and 1 May 1942, respectively.

In looking at early censored covers from SF, I have seen several with B&M C 1,1,3 used without numbers, with dates of arrival in SF ranging from late December to late January:

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Right now my early number use dates from (probably mid-) March:

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Would you please check your SF covers and let me know what dates you have that would close this gap.

Thanks,

Dann

Re: When did SF start using numbers

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:23 am
by dmui
Dann- The earliest I have located so far is a surface cover from Nicaragua cancelled Feb 1942 in Managua to SF address censor # 1519 inside a C1.1.3 handstand. I am sure I have others but they are in different subgrouping that I will have to dig out. I will report further as I locate them.

Dave

Re: When did SF start using numbers

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:34 pm
by dmui
Here is an earlier item-
A surface mail cover from KY to Honolulu posted December 31, 1941 with C1.1.3 marking and censor number 1576 added.

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Dann's assessment of this cover is that it seems that "some of the censors in SF were putting numbers in their handstamps not later than the first week in January. (12/31 in KY, allowing a couple of days in transit to SF puts it in the censor's hands over the weekend, Jan 3-4." Dann also notes that regulations required processing within 24 hours of receipt but there could have been a backlog of mail to Honolulu and airmail letters would have been processed first that could have delayed the processing of surface mail.

Re: When did SF start using numbers

PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:58 pm
by jmgarcar
i´ve checked all my SF censored covers (six with no number, two with number). The earliest I have (with no censor number) is dated Nov.20th, 1941 in Rio de Janeiro to Los Angeles. It was censored twice with San Francisco C 1.1.3 and Los Angeles C 1.3 marks.
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With number added, the earliest I have is a cover from New Jersey to Honolulu dated Mar 30th, 1942.

Best regards.

Jose M.